For starters, Treadwell was an outsider, a Californian from the weird-wacky end of the scale, a guy sporting a shock of. Amie Huguenard apparently did not share the same concern. Run Faster! I agree about his GF, tho, it's a shame someones genuine and innocent Affection was used to place her in such insane Danger. In his journal he wrote that he was often cold, hungry and tormented by insects, and that the first time he saw a grizzly it ran away. I mean thats a real jem guess i broke the rules guy but im alive and kicking. Minor fact but this attacked happened at 1:58PM Alaska Time.. Overcast due to the nasty weather. Palovak, Jewel. Look at how many idiots get killed driving drunk? But when his mauled remains were discovered, the legend began to unravel. Only way I found this was by following a citation link from another story.Pure accident.I agree Tim was probably bipolar.Have a friend and relative with it and his behaviours,beliefs and attitude are strikingly similar.Btw I get that the map is not to scale but the distances are off in a bad way.How can the distance from Tim to Amy be 30 m when a marked distance from a spot between them,to Amy,be 68 m? Was Tim feeding the fox? Thank you for not pursuing in publising the book, thats so human of you and tells more about what type of person you are. Also, who is the author of this great piece of literature, "The Night of the Living Bear"? a 1" projectile traveling at least 1.560 feet per second would down a T-Rex at close range! I told him that if we had any more violations from him we would petition the U.S. magistrate to ban him from the park,. Long, Ben. I only hope that the end came quick for Amie. This is a work in progress. Living by eating our garbage, with the occasional attempt at a child thrown in. Franc. Great article with new perspectives.Sad end of an extraordinary man and his love. He clearly overcompensated in his tapes. Being trained as a physicians assistant, it is believed that Amie made her way to Tim, and from the sounds caught on tape, the bear returns and Amie is forced to back off. How many times have each of seen a dog take the food and go away a short distance, where it feels safer? handgun begins to fire at about the same time rangers Gilliland and Dalrymple, who were each armed with 12 gauge shotguns loaded with slugs also begin to shoot at the bear. Bears die all the time, they fight, they starve, they get diseases and other injuries, they die. The article needed a copy editor, but was otherwise superb. This could indicate that he was closer to her than his dad. Son u obviously ain't never been to Alaska cause your dead wrong dead dead dead wrong u can carry a gun. Nothing wrong with that, but perhaps he was always disappointed that he wasn't more of an action hero, and deliberately put himself in dangerous situations to prove that idea wrong. He was just plain lucky for 13 years and became over confident in his own abilities. The scariest part of the story is that he found no front paw prints on theretreating path of the bear. I suspect that Amy was giving Tim a good old pegging the night that grumpy old bear happened upon them. That bear ate the finger that he flips off the rest of society with in his so called documentary. Night encounters are much different than surprise encounters during the day and must be handled differently. They are incredibly timid and will not allow you to see them. I, along with many others found it very curious that Tims possessions and ashes were handed over to Jewel Palovak and not to his parents. The State Theatre Not a good look. (Gaede 2005, et al), Tim and Amies friends have also speculated that bear #141 was an abused bear, because it had been previously trapped, tranquilized and tattooed, and that the bear had actually hunted Tim and Amie that night, and came for them. Votes: 13 24.1% Throw Salt on the Boyfriend, Run Like Hell! Duh. Tim was delusional. According to park service records, in 1998 Treadwell was issued a citation by park rangers for storing an ice chest filled with food in his tent. If I cared about bears that much. The only difference between Tim and I is, Tim felt that the fox were kindred spirits, whereas I knew that the coyotes were looking at me as they would any other large carnivore in the wild, and that hopefully I would lead them to food much as a bear or wolf would do. Amie then walks over to Tim, and based on training in the hospital no doubt told Tim to lay still, but is then tested and driven away by the bear, and at this point in the attack I believe Tim realized that this was not a typical bear encounter, and that playing dead was not going to work and the wrong response, yelling at Amie to hit the bear!. They are not to be trusted . He claimed he wouldn't die by "paws" and "claws." For your own good. Dead within 15 seconds.Some have interjected with their own imagination inventing that high velocity or 3 1/2" were used. In one of the more powerful scenes in Werner Herzog's 2005 documentary film about the attack, Grizzly Man, the director himself bears witness to this auditory horror. Hello !I looked into a doku about a photographer from Switzerland, which has been spending a lot of time in Alasca, filming bears in this doku i heard about Tim and Amie and afterwards i wanted to know more i am thankful for your words and that you gave Amie "a place" in this story its tragic, i think she knew what was going on but we all know, what love has to do with it he has had no fear that is important to understand this ending of 2 lifes very sad and brutal but he was the only one to make choices, after regarding that special bear i am very sad about the death of Tim and Amie but i am thankful, you brought YOUR thoughts into the internet, so i can try do understand, what has happened ! His right arm and hand laying nearby with his wrist watch still attached. I probably would have mailed this letter and anxiously waited for your reply had I, in fact, known who to properly address this to. Now, Bart's owners and trainer had this gentle giant since he was just months old and sadly he died of cancer around age 20, but how could this happen? Hopefully this will serve as reminder to others that want to do this kind of work to listen to those who have been around such creatures and to use precaution when in their presence. What I don't understand about this article is why would anyone be mystified with this tragedy. The length of the tape (six minutes +) argues against it being Bear 141. i appreciate that you presented the facts and then concluded with your own own reflections.reading this has indeed discouraged me from accessing online videos or books published early on about this case. I am SO glad I found this article again, so many years later! Likewise, a 28-year-old bear devoured a 46-year-old man and his girlfriend, and the authorities discovered the pairs clothing and other human remains in its stomach. Bear number #141 had worn, broken canines and was unable to make use of this tactic, along with the fact that the human head is just too large to fit directly inside of a bears mouth. October 10, 2020 By Nick Jans Nick Jans recalls his own encounters with the stories and tragic deaths of Timothy Treadwell and Chris McCandless. A special thanks to Rangers Joel Ellis and Rick McIntyre for their interest, their valuable insights, questions and encouragement. (Gaede 2005), Tim At The Grizzly Maze Lions Gate Films 2004. Indeed. I will also say shame on him, for dragging Aimee into it (her fault too, no doubt), and adding three extra bodies to the death toll (TT + (Aimee + 2 other bears)).Because of his disregard and disrespect for mother nature, 2 bears were killed just so ppl could investigate the "murder" scene. Not only that, but there are clues hidden in his childhood. My horses have taught me much about the body language of animals. Had a sheep herd. His boy was horrible & the ones close seemed staged. Again thank you for your contribution to the very important informational web and you ability to make it seem like reading a short novel while only following FACTUAL information. The stuff horror movies are made of. I have lived through horrors of nature that will forever walk in my dreams. Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard were the two jungle explorers who perished during the final search for their documentary. They should of enforced the regulations better and not allow someone as reckless as Tim back in the park. When he investigatedin the light of day the barn door was torn open and one of his1500 to 2000 pound horses had been carried off. In seeing the documentary and reading a lot about TT, it was obvious he had some serious mental issues. Tim later said he was sad that any bear would find him a threat. LOVE ?? Timothy Treadwell (born Timothy William Dexter; April 29, 1957 - October 6, 2003) was an American bear enthusiast, environmentalist, naturalist, documentary filmmaker, and founder of the bear-protection organization Grizzly People. I honestly dont think he did any harm out there. For this, I apologize. Sorry for my poor English but I disagree about the audio tape that is in YouTube. I struggle, though, to wonder how was "Bart, the stunt bear" raised and trained by Mr. Sues(sp) able to never injure anybody who came into his beautiful path and star along side of Hollywood's A listers and be literally a 1000 pound teddy bear in real life? That will not happen again. The more we learn, the less we seem to know or understand. Tims friends claim that poaching goes on all the time and that Tim protected the bears while he was in Katmai, but if in fact there had been 6 bears poached after Tim was killed, I think we would have seen more conclusive evidence of this and probably the main reason why Werner did not include that particular scene in the movie. I just believe it has been edited. This reminded me of that young "missionary" who was killed by some time he delusionally wanted to convert.I never heard of Treadwell before seeing him in some random Facebook comment on a stupid video about cute cuddly bears being just like humans. I LOVE ?? Jewel Palovak also states in her interview, that Tim was working with the park service, providing them with information on boat traffic, weather and other data collected. I just wanted to say that you did an amazing job. I often work in remote areas hence Ive had my fair share of bear encounters. Vermin. First, he wasnt gay but being molested makes you feel you might. One other thought came to mind after a short conversation with a Yellowstone biologist who is also interested in this story. He did not die quickly, unlike some traumatic death victims who were lucky enough to drift off into a shock induced dream state. Watching bears and wolves in the wilderness is addicting. But let's face it, no one deserves the kind of tormented life or death Timothy endured. I know, Ive experienced it myself and I have seen folks give up high paying jobs just to be able to do it. "But there was really no where to run.if she'd curled up in the tent and remained silent, the stench of the fag's carcass would have drawn other bears.Complete Cali airheadsnature loves us?no, nature is only the strong survive.I find it curious that the author cites Aimee as TT's lover?that cat was only a few clicks away from wearing a dress.lol. Grizzly Man chronicles the life and death of bear enthusiast Timothy Treadwell, who was killed, along with his girlfriend, Amie Huguenard, by a rogue bear in October 2003. Treadwell is pictured here with Aimee Hugenard at Upper Kaflia Lake, less than 100 yards from where they would die a year later. I followed Tim starting in 2000 after I joined Sea Shepherd at the time. Coroner photos of timothy treadwell - PDF Free Download. I enjoyed your writing, research, and opinion and very much think you should write your book. As soon as that bear started dragging him off as a food source. Than You!! Signs that he had grown up in a dysfunctional family. (Dalrymple 2003 , Van Daele 2004) Right at the end of a three month long salmon spawn, which would indicate that this bear was no longer able to feed on natural food items as efficiently, as well as in competition with other, younger, stronger, more dominant bears for what little food remained, and we know from past experience that an older bear no longer able to feed on natural foods, will make more use of garbage, and often raid camps and cabins if it has ever had those food items available to it in the past.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_5',119,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); Bears are opportunistic in obtaining food. Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you. Dodging and weaving around one tent, and then the other, out of her mind with fear? I just don't like some of my behaviors during it. I believe that, had Tim not walked away from the tent and towards the bear, and had stayed with Amie, or had they both left the tent and backed away from the tent giving the bear room, that the bear would not have attacked and both Tim and Amie would be alive today. Ranger Ellis states that the visibility was poor with a heavy growth of bushes and tall grass, the camp was located on top of a ridge and out of our sight. He out stayed his welcome.2. Timothy Treadwell formed mutual bonds between the wild creatures and spent the majority of his waking hours playing and observing the large wild beasts. Rangers Ellis and Dalrymple then hike back down the path to retrieve cameras from the plane. Why did he change his last name? Extremely well written and thought article. However, examining the evidence shows that this was not the case entirely, but was a contributing factor. I like the fact that the author of this article has a strong background in brown bears/grizzlies and spent a lot of time with them as Tim did because I feel that gives not just an objective opinion, but an educated one (both in textbooks and by firsthand). A threat to the males. When you hear the bears roar they are clearly closer to the camera than the screaming indicating a poor audio dubbing As i was increasingly fooled by repeats of the footage, I started to renounce my skepticism a little by saying maybe a second bear was wandering close to the camera as the other bear ate him because there are somewhat more distant roars in the footage too. Herrero, Dr. Stephen. Tim on the other hand, had spent months each year for 13 years, five of which carrying a video camera, and literally filmed everything! I suppose that is my payment for knowing too much information, and being able to fill in the blanks. No gun, no weapon of any kind except for a frying pan, screaming was all she had left. In my opinion, Amie was able to drive the bear away initially, because this was an older bear who had become conditioned when dealing with younger, stronger, more dominant bears by moving away from the food it had just obtained after being challenged, and was probably startled by a second animal, Amie in this case, suddenly appearing and making a lot of noise.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-3','ezslot_10',121,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-3-0'); After scaring the bear away, Amie and Tim have a short conversation while determining where the bear is, and whether it is still nearby. I am sure a select few know who wrote the above piece. A bear killed Amie. Im an engineer & pilot in the energy sector. The salmon run was at its end, and the river that flowed through the grizzly maze contained the last remaining salmon of the year. In previous night time bear encounters around remote camps, individuals who aggressively fought bears that were attacking their friend, were in most cases, able to drive the bear away. Did Amie try and keep the tents between herself and the bear when it returned? Very thorough and informative. He let fame go to his head, risk taking. The most popular articles about timothy treadwell death coroner photos. These animals are the mostpowerful land predictor known to exist. Now my take. I have read a whole bunch of articles on Tim and Amie's attack and death and in my humble opinion, I feel this is the closest to the truth there is. I feel as you do, he did much more damage than good for the bears he was studying. Thats the risk we have to take to see the last remaining symbol of wilderness. I watched the docu and it was very engrossing. Bears are beautiful wild animals. I would think twice from just sending this as a letter to Alaska Parks and Recreation Admin for fear I wouldn't get the intelligent and unbiased author, rather that my letter and others and future letters penned by prospective park employees or bear enthusiasts wishing to be the next Mr. Seus or Mr. Treadwell (at heart but with an educated mind) anyway, I would perhaps refrain from mailing this letter in search of seeking the experienced insightful author (name unknown) as it's recipient but,dreadfully, falling in the red neck ignorant hands of the pilot man who said outloud in a movie without much hesitation, that Treadwell got what he deserved. But fail to study, learn,about their ways, Behaviors,thats a must before Confronting the objects. He made it out here a long time before they (the bears) got him. With animals he felt power something he could not control when he was molested. (Epping 2003, pg 13), Earlier on that same day Tim phoned his pilot friend Willy Fulton to fly his float plane in to pick them up on the beach the following afternoon. I never forgot it since I first read it over 15 yrs ago - everything you wrote, in such detail, is sanely deductive, intelligent, thoughtful & totally haunting. (Ellis 2003, pg 3). Not the bodies, but just the torn-up camp and things like that etcAlso, has anyone went back to the site? Take a clinical psychology course and try again. A devastating and heartrending take on grizzly bear activists Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard, who were killed in October of 2003 while living among grizzlies in Alaska. Bear spray is allowed, however Tim had quit carrying bear spray for protection several summers prior to his death. We might be a superior species but only because of our brain, not our braun. Do you know if there was a strap-on found in the tent supplies? Timothy Treadwell was the sort of guy most Alaskans loved to hate. In this case, the humans should have continued their exit plan and listened to theirs but foolishy they didnt. As far as inconsistencies with sound and distance. 2002, Great Montana Bear Stories: Riverbend Publishing. (Fulton 2003, 2004), Incident Diagram courtesy National Park Service (Body locations are noted by author). However, from statements made by Willy Fulton, the pilot that transported Tim and Amie in and out each year, this was a bear he had seen before on previous flights and was just a dirty rotten bear, that Tim didnt like anyway, and wanted to be friends with but never happened. Bears along the Alaskan coast are well-fed because of the areas salmon runs. You hear the gf say "is it STILL out there?" and then a few minutes later Timothy is heard saying "hel me! Thinking wild animals were his best friends. Hysterical and paralyzed with fear, standing just outside of the tent until the bear returned and attacked her. Tim leaves the tent and walks away from the tent and towards the bear. The audio was uncomfortable and wasnt intended for anyone to hear in public. Habituating bears to the presence of man only increases the chance that harm will someday come to the bear, or another man.. Each year, when Tim set camp within Katmai National Park, he voluntarily became a member of the food chain, and by not placing an electric fence around his camp (All bear researchers that camp in this area reportedly set up portable electric fences), by hiding his camp from park rangers in dense alder brush thickets, as well as refusing to carry bear spray (firearms are prohibited in National Parks) and by crawling and walking up close to large brown bears, often touching or attempting to touch adult bears and young cubs, showed a total disregard for his life, the life of his girlfriend Amie Huguenard, and the lives of each bear that he interacted with. Thank you! As I researched this incident, I quickly realized that Tim and I had quite a bit in common and I totally understood his passion. My next point is about people posting about which type of mental illness Tim had. What I do and would do during hypomania has me seeing this as it is. Whatever is easy to get to while expending the least amount of energy. No other record keeping by Tim was turned over to the park service.). no wild conspiracy theories, no fake audio, just FACTS. Possibly in his mind, he thought that if he didnt pose a threat to these animals, that they would ignore him and leave him alone, Timothy Treadwell was wrong. Willy then takes off and flies over the campsite 15 to 20 times in an attempt to chase the bear away, and sees what appears to be the same bear feeding from a human rib cage, but each time he flies over the camp the bear begins to feed even faster. Alaska is tough living bears are tough tim wasnt needing the comforts of malibu. However, author Nick Jans, author of The Grizzly Maze: Timothy Treadwell's Fatal Obsession with Alaskan Bears had photos provided by the rangers and one was a photo of Bear 141. All he did was acclimate wild animals to human beings, putting humans and wild life in more danger. Only Tim, and of course Amie for trusting Tim, but then who can really say? Well researched and so informational in shedding light on such a tragedy that could have very well been prevented. I don't even remember what it was I was looking up on google when I came across your story. U bash the guy and say u love him? Perhaps the author didn't want letters addressed to (him?) A scream. Additionally, the audio release on YouTube and Reddit has not been verified as being authentic, raising the possibility that it is a fake. He often taped the encounters.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-2','ezslot_9',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-2-0'); So what happened? This article has been tagged as NSFL due to its disturbing subject matter/audio. RIP Timothy and Amie. David Croall.. Telling his closest friends the bears and fox he loved them. 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