Maybe he doesn't like them looking at him. Glad Im not on Facebook. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Kingdom. She made a video about it where she says there is a sex club run by men in Lafayette (25 minutes from Delphi) and they kidnap girls for sexual pleasure. I knew nothing about the case until today, but when I heard the man say Guys, down the hill it seemed like he was signalling other people via some Bluetooth handsfree set. The scarves seem like a true report as Ive seen it over and over. !| Case Discussion & FACT CHECKS!). Libby and Abby's deaths quickly became an unsolved mystery that was thrust into the national spotlight. [quote]Recording the recording, that it is brief and that it recorded the murders. I went down the Reddit Rabbit hole last night and read that there, but idk if that is accurate. I'm sorry, a family member thinking someone is not the perp is only as good as having a good idea who IS. R23 Im not sure the video could include the murdersunless you mean just the audio? That might also explain why they would keep some of the recordings from the public. He felt humiliated and was deeply angry. As her family grew frustrated with the lack of developments in the case, Liberty's older sister Kelsi German revealed in February 2020 that she is studying forensic science in the hope of one-day helping to solve who killed her sister. IF that all is true, it suggests pre-planning involving multiple people. Libby's phone was reset about a week before the murders, the guy's phone was reset to delete data after the murders. A second sketch was released at the press conference held on April 22, 2019. R288, That's exactly what I said when I read he is from LaFollette. It's almost 4am and I am checking out her FB friends. On one of the reservoir tanks was a big (I mean huge) sign that said something like "Congratulations New York Police for Catching Son of Sam!" Yes indeed, we too use "cookies." Not sure if same poster but another perosn said that the audio after the down the hill line was the girls screaming, which chilled me. And what if the BG was wearing some kind of disguise? Im thinking not. Everyone in that town seems to know who had killed him, and where his body had been hidden and stored. R67 You have to wonder what that one girl did to "deserve" that brunt of the attack? [The videos] help us know that people dont know [the true details], because the facts havent been released, Holeman said. And I guess not knowing the cause of death and WHY he did this makes it even more disturbing. They're probably going to kill you anyway. Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on. And if more children were abused, all the more appalling, Also from reddit: YouTuber with screenshots of suspicious activity between Keegan and his dad. This. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Chadwell is an amateur tattoo artist and he got tattoos while he was in prison. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they were the same car and someone changed the plates during the day. Especially, when they had to be driven to the secluded location. There have been texts on Reddit for years now. I suspect the same thing R33, but it's not based on anything but a feeling. That doesnt mean he didnt know their parents or someone close to them someone he may have wanted to pay back. Trying to recall which podcast, but it was raised with either a family remember it law enforcement. There were some very iffy pics that the person claimed was one one the victims. READ | A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead. They threaten you, they don't go jump start to killing two people. There is speculation about 2 men in a white rental car with phony paper license plates that were spotted near the bridge. There's a Reddit thread saying the guy who accused PB is a notorious net loon who injects himself into lots of cases and shouldn't be taken seriously. Most people think that LE knows who killed them but didn't have enough evidence. Just two years older than Delphi, she considered him her protector in dealing with the kids in West Chester, Lawrence said. I used to regularly take my family dog out for a walk in a wooded area near my house when I was a teen, it wasn't a popular area but every so often I'd cross paths with someone and even as a well built teenage guy with a german shepherd I felt vulnerable, so I can only imagine how those girls must have felt in their final moments. READ | ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. Did anything they said at either of the latest press conferences seem to fit with that theory? What saddens me is that when (if) LE does arrest somebody, they'll crow to the skies in a self-congratulatory haze. The blogs "paperblog" and "truthtellersweb" have interesting stuff to read. Like they had a name, someone to watch? Women hating bullies identify with him. Thanks R5 I did search and didnt find anything. Imo, and made one cooperate by threatening to kill her friend if she did not obey him. What's the update? That tattoo looks so much like her because all of his victims do. Thats why they were killed in such a brutal way. DELPHI TIMELINE | The search for Libby & Abby's killer. He got his revenge and made her feel as inadequate and humiliated as she had him, and every one of his victims looked like her The same with all serial killers . [1] She was educated at Halidon House School in Slough, Berkshire, whilst living in Colnbrook. I WONDER why we could think this guy might possibly have been involved. Congratulations on this excellent venture what a great idea! Abigail Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on a trail near the Monon High Bridge in Delphi on Feb. 13, 2017. Enough"? Evidently they talk about a creepy guy following them and what should they do about it on the video. I truly thought this was a crime of opportunity. Local news reports in 2018 discuss the frustrating lack of answers in the Delphi murders case. It really is a creepy coincidence, though. His father, Defields Lawrence, had died in 2001. LE doesn't want to call anyone a suspect only a POI (Person of Interest). The sheriff also had notable body language that could be interpreted as guilt or fear. [quote] Payback? We have no idea if LE has DNA, but the assumption is they don't or we would have heard of it being used to find the killer by now. The wikipedia page only mentions the Indiana State Police. Sheriff Leazenby told RTV6 that evening that they had no reason to believe the girls were in danger. R73, they were found at the edge of a privately owned 40-acre lot. A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. I only started reading about the murders a few years after the murders. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Between the similar looks and the fact of his crime being almost identical to the Delphi murders, I really feel he is the killer. [quote] We don't like when people start threads with a daily mail link. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Idk why. Holes, the retired homicide investigator, also said the app could prove helpful, as perhaps the closest thing the public has to more photos of the Delphi killings. Friends of the two said they had seen them together around 9:30 p.m. or 10 p.m. on March 5, 1971, in the area of East Market Street and South Matlack Street. The enforcer would come in, commit the crime, cover it up with the second child's murder, and leave the area. Also, the she was hit in the head and never felt it sounds like wish fulfillment. This is the fatal flaw. "The information has obviously been sharedwith us, and our investigators are looking into him," Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said of Chadwell's case. But often decades go by until the perp is caught, do more to luck and happenstance than investigation. At this point i think they should release more footage from the vid/recording as I think it would help given they obviously have zilch in terms of evidence. I thought if I gave a statement, they would still have to prove it. The texts from the guy who found the girls say they were not posed. I also tend to believe stuff released from family members, although I understand people may feel differently. As reconstructed by the investigators, the Connecticut murderer identified the trail and discovered the obscure parking lot. during the one-year press conference marking the Delphi murders, Investigators say internet rumors can hinder search for Delphi killer, Physical Description (i.e. There's a school of thought that local LE have a good idea of the perp's ID, but the person has a strong (though faux) alibi. The day the girls went missing, there were dozens of people looking for them. This validated my opinion of the striking resemblance. I thought well, maybe most women have nails like that and Ive just never noticed. Assuming everything in that video at R500 is accurate it's pretty convincing. Chadwell is such a great suspect, I bet it's him. The bridge has slats of decayed wood. He told police he would find girls on Instagram and then ask them to talk to him on Snapchat. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. nothing left behind in a sexual assault) or even dog DNA, since one victim was possibly bitten by a dog at some point. I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? Sick, sick, sick. It is also not known if the killer left the phone there or not. A. Q. [R460], I don't understand this either: "Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer." I have no idea if it is but the photo side by side with Bridge Guy is compelling. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. Days after Libby and Abby were found dead, police officially named that man a person of interest in their murders. R225 I was once a teen girl and yes you do walk just to walk sometimes. Those trails are where kids went. No way. That girl was incredibly smart to get it recorded. Learn How rich is She in this year and how She spends money? His family did not speak of the circumstances surrounding Delphis murder, and signs of her had been removed from the familys home on Chestnut Street. On facebook, he gives strong "Todd from vaguebooking" vibes. I cant say theres not a threat to the community, Indiana State Police Sgt. Tell you what. I dearly hope they find the shitbag who did this and that there's a hell waiting for him at the end of the line. Fouts also was a lawyer against Derrick's case in 2011 (35-43-4-2(a)/FD: Theft, 35-48-4-14.5(c)/FD: Possess Anhydrous Ammonia/Ammonia Solution w/ Intent To Manufacture Drug). The child had bite marks from his pitbull. The cops are probably not going to feed her all their information just in case. [anyone actually]. Email us at exclusive@the-sun.com or call 212 416 4552. Liberty Libby German and Abigail Abby Williams were best friends who went everywhere together. A. I wish someone with money or connections would help these families hire a private investigator or lawyer to access additional details on the case. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). My term ends in 2022 [and I] would love nothing more than to see someone convicted of this crime before I am out of office.. I think the creepiest part is the police apparently know who did it but because of the video quality they can't charge to culprit so are just waiting for him to make a mistake. There is a new sketch of BG in which he looks much younger. The "leaker" is a phony and the sub-reddit moderator is a fool. Just that I assume he was some sort of transient. R223: Ive yet to determine an official source reporting screaming was heard. There is part of the video of one of the girls reactions that haunts one of the investigators. R276-- Meant to say that I have no doubt he would have murdered her if he hadn't been caught. r288 that's chilling. She is currently single. Lol. I hope shes ok and the police is looking into it. Investigators say speculations, rumors and comparisons can actually do more to hinder the investigation than to help it. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. Ever since the drama with "verifying" the guy who goes by Leigh Kerr on the subreddit, he's completely disappeared, right? when it had taken them for-fucking-ever to do jack shit about it and then they bungled and fucked up the search. Last night, I read through a long thread on Reddit and it was frightening, sad, and had information that I hadn't read before. It's too long to post them here. Libby added, "But not THOSE photos! Therein lies the problem, r415they must not have any DNA evidence. But I waiver between about 6 different POIs. If sexual assault wasn't the motive, the motive must have been something else we're not aware of - such as a payback for a parent's debt. Chadwell, of Lafayette, was investigated in connection to the crime shortly after his arrest. Please click here to update your account with a username and password. They need to come up with, or utilize, cellphone GPS-tracking by wireless carriers. I remember doing all kinds of dangerous stupid shit as a teenager. I posted at R413. There's been a lot of criticism of the police fumbling and taking forever. I think this thread has a link to the helicopter photos. Maybe a tree branch. The only two options arent they did it and they know who did it. A. Here's a good recap of the investigation. People have tweeted at her about it and she's only liking comments. The workplace of double murder suspect Richard M. Allen, on Oct. 31, 2022, in Delphi, where girls Abigail Williams and Liberty German were killed in 2017. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. And frankly, maybe he doesn't know since many anonymous pedophiles use it. WebDELPHI, Ind. Do investigators believe the bridge photo and voice belong to same person? There is no reason, it should haven taken 5 years to solve this. I think an officer would have a holster, even a hidden one. Ok, that tattoo gave me chills. They withheld too much info and ended up with thousands of fruitless leads. Who the hell would walk that bridge, much less allow kids to walk on it alone? Lawrence, speaking to the Daily Local News recently about the case involving his sister and Garnett, said that Delphi had become literally a ghost, for him remembered, but only as a spectral presence. I agree with the poster who said hes done this before. The one podcast I forced myself to sit through was 7-8 hours of endlessly rehashed info and interviews with family members that went absolutely nowhere beyond what everybody has known since early stages of the investigation. I hope this revives momentum in the investigation and finally leads to an arrest. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. She died 12 years later, in 2002, aged 70, from undisclosed causes. A poster upstream mentioned one of the girls' parent might have been in drug or gambling debt. Esp. I really hope so. If they'd released more info to begin with, the guy might be in prison by now. I hope I'm just seeing things and nothing that horrific happened to the girls. R194 Ill admit, Ive never been so intrigued by true crime, but this one really got under my skin. The killer could have used fishing line as a garrote. It has been discussed with the FBI, but again, it is currently felt it is close to the evidentiary element. She had a career in acting and is most remembered for her roles in The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959), and The Avengers (1959). I hadnt know about the Brooks case but will read about it. But i'm hoping they have some sort of DNA evidence or something they haven't released to public that would pin this on him. We believe you are hiding in plain sight, Carter said. For some reason i cant remember if this has ever been confirmed - but did both girls have scarves around their necks at the funerals??? Why could they be the suspect. Abby was collateral damage. I'm wondering if they were lead there to meet a guy they'd been in contact with online, but all did not go as planned. Unlike other old cases, they were not disposed of because Garnett had continued to appeal his conviction. For other inquiries, Contact Us. The fat pedo is wearing an Auto Workers Union t-shirt. Looking at one photo of him outside somewhere with train tracks/trees in the background startled me for some reason. The video image of course turned black but it kept recording audio of their murders, which were evidently horrorific. Also, it seems (if Leigh Kerr can be believed) that Abby was killed first and quickly, possibly bludgeoned. The way investigators are still asking people if they know who set up the catfishing account even though the fat pedo already admitted he did it. We dont know how far this person or persons might have walked through that area. Indiana State Police later revealed that the second sketch, released more than two years after the girls were killed, was actually the first sketch they had drawn up. I'm from Australia and expressed my sympathy and hope that the murderer/s would be caught swiftly. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. Police may soon be allowed to collect DNA samples from anyone accused not only convicted of a felony in the state. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. There were at least 2 deer tree stands near the crime scene. Both images, shown below, depict the same white man wearing blue jeans, a blue coat/jacket and a hoodie. And even if it was payback for something drug related, it would be a clean execution. That can happen and then it's usually a big sum. R50 I saw those images but cant make them out. R383, It was Libby's older sister, Kelsi, who agreed to it. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. Yes, this one horrifies me. William DeLong is a freelance wordsmith. This fat guy wouldn't surprise anyone. This is close to an evidentiary information question and I prefer not to respond. I didn't see a scarf. I hope that it is solved, and BG is punished. I'm sure I read that somewhere. It took me forever to find that when I was looking for it yesterday r302, which is why I didn't link to the post that showed the photo from 2016 where he already had a tattoo, it would take me an hour to figure out which link in my history it was. The She is a member of famous Actress with the age 70 years old group. It wasnt until he had the girls down the hill that he revealed his motives. The guys and down the hill are in order, according to one of the parents/grandparents who listened to the recording and were interviewed on a podcast. . Immediately before the abduction, one girl posted a photo of her friend walking on the bridge to Snapchat. She disappeared that night, however, and was later found dead, tied up and wrapped in a cushioned blanket on the east side of Goose Creek near East Barnard Street in the borough, a month later. Born to Barbara Yvonne (ne Enever) and Louis Holzman, who wed in 1930, she was of Hungarian ancestry on her father's side. 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