Mrs. Linde depends on Torvald to provide her with a job and she is able to get the job because she a widow. Nora can be seen as a narcissist because she does exhibit some of the points that Tuft has explained in his article. Torvald never really took a stand in things and which is why Nora was able to leave so easily. Marcus knows that will never bring her true happiness, but he himself must always feel secure. He continues by stating to their Rabbi "my wife does not follow my wishes but believes herself to be entitled to act on her own, even if this is totally against my orders" - this absolves him from any wrongdoing. WebSelect search scope, currently: catalog all catalog, articles, website, & more in one search; catalog books, media & more in the Stanford Libraries' collections; Right away you can see he is the head of the household. this is very similar to Helmer in A Dolls House. In response to the other texts i believe that A Doll's House is not a Feminist text but indeed a Marxist text. I just find it ironic that perhaps the one person who has lost of most (her family) and most dependant (servant) appears to be the most content. Relationship Support Letters Examples Canadavisa com July 8th, 2010 - Having some family and friends provide letters to help prove our common law relationship My mother and his mother and at least two friends from each of us Do you think thisKindly say, the Affidavit Of Support Sample Letter is universally compatible with any devices to It matches up to one of the behaviors in the list. His only concern is her contentment. Instead of being reduced to an antiquated piece of Victorian literature, Ibsen's play continues to stir thought about the dynamics of human relationships within a set society. Also, he wants to analyze if Nora is defined to be in narcissism or just to be self absorbed. When I read a Doll's house, I mostly just saw a strong sense of humanism. The letter to Ulrike is not one that would convince me to come back home. I found Torvald loved Nora where as Marcus does not love his wife. Besides that, I see no similarities. After reading A Nineteenth-Century Husband's Letter to His Wife, I could not help but to wonder if Marcus' letter to his wife would be a future version of the letter Helmer would write to Nora after she left. Nora could of gone about handling these situations in different ways, but its as if she likes the change, she likes where her life is heading. In this letter from Marcus to his wife, Marcus has a very demanding tone-- he makes it seem that he has all the power, & something like its my way or the highway lady.Just like in "A Dolls House", both trovold and Mrcus bothe treat their wivies as poossesions. All 3 characters were slaves of money and desicions and consciousness were greatly afflicted by their economic well being. Ibsen uses not use as only Nora and Torvald, but every single character big or small to ask a question on human freedom. She might have been a bit drastic by leaving her kids as well as her husband, but I don't think that by leaving makes her narcissistic. She is creating this picture-perfect world for herself that she lives in, and shoves it in other people's faces just so they can't see her internal conflict that she is struggling with. WebThe colonel tried to shoot him down before he left the plantation and promised to shoot him the next time he saw him. Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of Democratic Republic of the Congo, Brussels, January 26, 1960. This comment has been removed by the author. She is also worrying about keeping "secret" safe so that Torvald doesn't find out. We can't live nor judge another person on what's correct or not, because what's correct for me, may not be correct for you.And the 19th century husband adds him, "May God enlight your heart and mind" Which is funny because in that era, woman remained uneducated and therefore unable to be enlightened. Instead Nora did not even notice it, and failed to realize that her friend was conflicted in a love once lost. Marcus warned Ulrike of the contempt and indifference he and the children would face if she didnt return. I wonder if Nora thinks about all that while being so into herself with this duties to self. Marcus accepts responsibility for the separation only as an afterthought. The husband is making statement such as if she comes back it will be the "correct" thing to do. stream He says that she must follow HIS wishes: she is basically his servant, his slave. Marcus, without his wife actions and is in need of her assistants. It's only natural. We see that at the end of the play, Helmer, while throwing some passive insults in Nora's direction, is a little more understanding that most would expect him to be, considering the circumstances. He accepts possible blame Their worlds had gotten bigger and their lives remained small.What do think about an industrial revolution hysteria? To some it didnt. I can definitely see Tufts argument on Nora being a narcissistic character - - after all she does go throughout the whole story basing her decisions on her and only her. Web That your sex are naturally tyrannical is a truth so thoroughly established as to admit of no dispute; but such of you as wish to be happy willingly give up the harsh title of master for the more tender and endearing one of friend. He does tell her that she does not really have any choice but to come home. Most people who have high statuses in society have these inner issues and try to cover them up or make them disappear by spoiling themselves with materialistic possessions. WebThe letter, read alone on stage by Lady Macbeth, reiterates the Witches' prophecy of Act I. We focus sometimes solely on the relationship between Torvald and Nora and forget about Rank and Mrs. Linde, who to me are huge characters and give us better insight into their society. A Nineteenth-Century Husband's Letter to His Wife displayed the backward thinking which led to the end results of Ibsen's play. Tuft's purpose in arguing that Nora is a Narcissist is to prove a former point that she made. When she leaves her family at the end of the play, her excuse may be that she finally wants to be in control of her own life and make her own decisions which on that side who can blame her? I think another major difference is just the relationship itself, I mean from what I read in this letter there is no love between Marcus and his wife it's all just duty to one another and the children. Reading the description of the diagnosis for the narcissistic personality, one could easily apply that to most all celebrities of our day. They both, also, portray a sense of entitlement and superiority over their wives with regards to both the ways in which they refer to their wives, and their sets of expectations. 17. Nora was just as much as at fault as Helmer, he reacted poorly to her actions, and she reacted even worse, leaving completely. He thought how a good climber like him could fall. In the American Standard Version of the Holy Bible (http://ebible.org/bible/asv/) Adam told God "The womangave me (fruit) of the tree, and I did eat." q7Ng?vz`XC %e#$`VDnn8I88Qi?zJtz]ftY8GsLD4X(B9$PbNvZ Both men seem to feel that they are the most powerful of each family. She's always talking about how her husband is now going to make so much money she will live worry-free. Tufts wants the readers to realize that Nora is not illustrating any form of solidarity towards others. Whether it be a wife trying to hide her credit card debt from her husband, to a mother leaving her family to reinvent herself. A few months after his voyage, Columbus decided to write his trip patrons a letter. He is clearly masking his insecurity through his harsh words and demeaning phrases. Nora showed many characteristics of a narcissist according to Tuft's provided criteria. Check it out here: ====> Why men leave perfect women <=====, Making Literature Matter in Contemporary Thought, The Secret Ingredient to obsessive love. He pleaded with her to tell him how they could make it work. He takes a stand is telling his wife either she does what he wants and fulfills her wifely duties like she should or she'll be alone with no money, no husband, and no kids, which at those times meant she had NOTHING at all and that was the worst case scenario for anyone. However, in spite of his kindness, Torvald is insecure as well. But at the same time, I still feel that goes back to the message of humanism with a human working to aspiring to find herself. Nora is in a similar situation. He compares himself to Adam of the bible arguing that Eve sinned first and if not for her, he would never have had that opportunity for sin. He accepts the responsibility for their separation by agreeing that she has sinned however he also sinned as well. Because he didn't take blame for her doesn't give her the right to leave because she is not standing up for her self she is being childish towards herself. In its negative sense, it is the use of rumors, lies, disinformation, and scare tactics in order to damage or promote a cause. He calls her actions insensible and incorrect, without taking out any time to consider his contribution to their marital strife. (by the way, tinderxheart06 is actually laura but i can't figure out how to make my username my real namean dnot my screen name). He did not say hurtful things to her. The list of things he presented for her to obey to made me imagine him as a wicked step mother giving orders to Cinderella. However, I believe that she acts like this on the surface in order to hide her insecurities about her own life. So without knowing further details about the case I reserve my further judgment. Marcus' letter to his wife is the complete opposite of Ibsen's play. Throughout almost the entire letter, he is dictating his wife; telling her what must be done and the way it is done. He wants Ulrike to be satisfied with the position she has in his life and the lives of their children. Marcus' tone in his letter is very mean and nasty. She hardly ever cares for her children and when she does, it is to play with them. WebA woman in upper- class society of the time had few choices in an unhappy marriage. Nora needed to find herself as many people do. Millions were infected. She had a variety of prepared replies she instructed her secretary to send. If we look at the criteria for the narcissitic personality, Nora has exhibited them all throughout the play. He thought his wife was happy. He said that she had sinned first and because of her sin he sinned. Though he does say that his behavior may have added fuel to the fire, he quickly reminds he that it was Eve who first ate the apple, not Adam. Helmer is the same in the fact that he wants Nora to apologize for her sin and says that he is responsible for nothing. This is opposite of Marcus approach. In the letter he uses rhetorical strategies such as tone, diction and pathos to convey the greatness that was the United States. Throughout A Dolls House the character of Nora gets the attention thrown on her more and more. Marcus basically explains to his wife that she has sinned first therefore the entire sin is on her and not him which is exactly like a dolls house. This describes Nora to a tee. Just because she left her husband she had no right. WebIn the 1830s, John Downe wrote a letter to his wife in hopes of convincing her to join him in the United States. But she clearly has some inner issues that she attempts to hide from people, especially Torvald, by becoming obsessed with these things. The Marxist approach to "A Doll's House" provides a different way of examining this situation than I could have thought. She needs to have her own life and live the way she wants to. When Nora was threatening to leave, Torvold didnt try to guilt her into staying. I felt a touch of compassion for Helmer in that he didn't know what hit him when Nora declared her intentions. If she had not wanted to spend her life attatched to Torvald andher children, why get herslef stuck in the situation in the first place? What is sensible to her may not be what is sensible to him. Van also helps give Marcus many of the great ideas that make his rebellion succesful. It was first published in Pound's Cathay, a 1915 collection of his works.Upon publication several of the poems WebIn the 1830s, John Downe wrote a letter to his wife in hopes of convincing her to join him in the United States. It is her job to look and sound sweet and make nice home for her husband to come home to. With time, the pressure of following her husband's orders could no longer be tolerated which was why she left. Tuft breaks down the definition of narcissism by referring to the criteria established by the Task Force on Nomenclature and Statistics of the American Psychiatric Association. I dont think her husband is fitting to the role as well. One of the similarities between Marcus's letter and Nora's husband is in the fact that both of them want their wives back. we are hairy teens. She cares primarily about the good deeds she has done, which don't seem to be too many. The attraction of money is what kept her in that house fo rso long. Thus points of preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love and Exhibitionistic requires constant attention and admiration and lack of empathy: inability to recognize how others feel resembles some of Nora characteristics. Marcus is subliminally telling her the pursuit of her personal and heartfelt desires is stupid and wrong. If that isnt narcissism, I dont know what is. Krogstad needed to keep his job to support himself and keep the only good thing about his reputation. she does not care about ant one else's feelings. Solution. But apparently this is not enough and when he discovers a lie on her part and suspects that this is only the tip of the iceberg she leaves him and the kids slamming the door behind her. He states, " you will have to follow my wishes." Curley's wife is described in the first appearance she makes: "She had full, rouged lips and wide-spread eyes, heavily made up. He demands to know her whereabouts and the exact time and date of her return to him. He is attempting to inform her that hes fine without her, but the children and the house arent. I believe this is a humanist approach to the idea at the end of A Doll's House. She leaves as to say that money isn't happiness and that Torvald was deceiving her with their marriage because she was only there as a trophy from her father, not a wife.Witham and Lutterbie later on write that, "she renounces not only her marital vows but also her financial dependence because she has discovered that personal and human freedom are not measured in economic terms." If they really loved their wives, they would not treat them in poor ways. Both men are the head of the household and both men dominate their wives, but I believe Marcus is more badly then Torvald. Another one is that Helmer tries make a deal with Nora that she can live in a house with her family like a sister. In the letter, Marcus also sets circumstances under which his wife can return to his home.But at the end, I don't think they have any right to say that they are real men. She leaves her children and her husband behind because she wanted to be free. WebBarker for stimulating discussions and the solution to one of the problems; William Waite for pictures from his antique math collection; and Peter Cromwell, Lord & Lady Dunsany, Peter Knoppers, John Lienhard, John Mainstone, David Nicholls, Paul and Colin Roberts, Anders Sandberg, John Sullivan, and others for their valuable contributions. If his wishes are fulfilled then other women will be jealous of the way she lives her life with her husband. Their own acts lead to the tragic outcomes where in one case kids and husband were abounded and in another the queen has committed a suicide. Describe the tone of Marcus' letter to his wife. He expresses his dissatisfaction of her actions by telling her outright she "sinned greatly." He simply says she can return if she wants, but only if she makes some changes. This is where I disagree because Nora may have been superficially happy buying her children items, as well as for herslef and Torvald, but that was not how she exercized her personal freedom. Marcus wants to be the one in cotrol and you can feel his anger through this letter. Your good taste will tell you which to send to Mary. answer choices She wishes to state her approval of the Articles of Confederation. He demanded that his wife act "sensibly and correctly" which are conditional terms based on the interpretation of the reader. WebIn 1345 Italian scholar, poet and humanist Francesco Petrarca (Petrarch) discovered Cicero's Letters to Titus Pomponius Atticus in the Biblioteca Capitolare della Cattedrale di Verona. For some peopole, the belief is to stick with your family through thick and thin. Torvald was much more regretful than Marcus was. I completely agree with Alyssa. She even used her supposedly saving Torvolds life to draw attention to herself and how good of a wife she was (even though she wasnt) She was a liar and manipulator. Ulrike did indeed have some compassion toward his wife, he at least loved her, regardless of how rash he acted towards her in a moment of animosity. Tuft says Nora is narcissistic, and I think that is something we can all agree with. The Antonine Plague of 165 CE, a global pandemic with a mortality rate of between 2-3%, began with flu-like symptoms until it escalated and became gruesome and painfully fatal. Although, at the same time she leaves without worrying how her children will end up just because they have someone taking care of them doesn't mean they don't need their mother. Due to the fact that she did indeed brag to her childhood friend Kristine about her "wonderful eight years of marriage" and also imposing Kristine with her seriously grave marrital secret, making the focus all about her, she completely bypassed the fact that Kristine was so interested in Krogstad. He wears his emotions on his sleeve while Marcus masks his underneath his masculinity. Tuft's purpose in arguing that Nora be seen as narcissistic because Nora character cannot stand on her own. It is, perhaps, that she fears a narcissistic path and she leaves in attempt to stray from this path. She has nothing and no one is going to "see" her and this is what she wants. Rather than celebrate feminist causes, they'll identify with an individual's desire for self-actualization and debate about the validity of Nora's actions. He also mentions her "false ambitions", which shows to me that he believes that her hopes and dreams are ludicrous and unattainable because she is a woman. He had to keep his wife in perfect conditionlike a delicate set of China. While Marcus makes it apparnet that the wife has obligations to their husbands, that they need to do what the husband says.- I dont think either of them takes responsibility for the seperation, in fact Trovold makes accusations of Nora being sick, like mentally ill. She did sin in the fact that she left the house and her family to follow her own desires but yet he thinks lack of happiness isn't a real reason to leave. I don't think it would so much discuss her wrong-doings.This letter to Ulrike is basically a critique of her personality and what she will have to do to reenter her husbands life, but how can he be so sure that she will willingly reenter his life? Although he accepts some responsibility for causing Ulrike to make these choices, it is obvious that he thinks he mostly innocent and places the "blame" on her. I mean if she is not happy with her husband - this is one thing and I can understand that. Torvald and Nora are more loving towards one another and address each other in more playful ways. Tuft's veiw of Nora as a narcissit is not to far off in ,y opinion, at first glance it does not seem that way. WebPublishers summary: Confraternities were the most common form of organized religious life in medieval and early modern Europe. An argument that presents Nora as narcissistic is one of great interest, one which I had never considered before. Though at the first glance it is hidden from view once you read it again you will see it more clearly. Principal condition set by Jourdan to return with his old master. Marcus seems to be pinpointing most of the blame on his wife in the letter. In fact, Bess became such an integral part of Harrys decision She is basically getting her way all the time. On the other hand, Witham and Lutterbie then go to say that Nora "equates personal freedom with the acquisition of wealth." Well, first off, in the beginning of the letter, although he admits he holds some of the blame, he does not let that stop him from blaming his wife for the problems they have. WebHis wife, Abigail Smith Adams was wrote constantly to him on the conditions of wartime Boston which had been held by the British.The city had been liberated by George Washingtons army just before these letters were written. The man that is in Marcuss letter sets the ground rules of what the definition of a women should be and do because he feels like it is her priority to fulfill his wishes. He sees no other reason as to why someone would leave in search for their own desires is they weren't content in only pleasing themselves. However, I dont think it has any relation to Torvold and Noras separation. The letter to me seemed like a contract between two people who work; a partner at work and not a marriage because he states everything that he wants her to do so she can come back in specific detail and the thing is is that she doesn't want to come back because of that specific reason; his way of making everything a business and not a relationship. On the otherhand, Nora was much more in control than Torvald. I think the first difference is that Marcus is a lot more demanding and more firm in what he wants. But do we need God to hope our eyes if they are glowing with light? After Ulrike leaves Marcus, he writes his letter and sets reasonable wishes for her conduct once she returns, while Nora did not leave Torvald until the end of the play Torvald also demanded reasonable wishes for her. His proposal for her to come back to his home and their society is very strict and restrictive of her own personal will. Economics affects my day to day life dramatically, so I agree heavily with the Marxist "tenet" comment that "consciousness is affected by economics". He believes women need to live with a man in order to have necessities and a good reputation. I understand why some are saying that Nora is seen as narcissistic, however, I do not believe so. It is also very interesting about the freedom aspect in this letter. She abandons her family. Not knowing the truth to this passage, Marcus would take his wife back under the condition that he would enslaved her as a wife. The difference is , Trovold kind of treats Nora as a child or dog -- giving her rewards for being a "good" wife, like always giving her money and rewarding her with jewlery and clothes. In this remote situation, I am deprived in a great measure of this comfort. In order not to have to remind my wife every second The husband clearly does not take blame in their nor does he feel sincere throughout the letter.He even is so content in her coming back, he adds in "But if you decide to act sensibly, and correctly, that is just and kindly, then be certain that many in the world will envy." Marcus's letter reminded me of someone who writes something to a person that left them, blaming everything on that person. Nora does display some traits of a narcissistic person because of her obsession with how much money she has, and because her appearance and status in society is very important to her. I dont think she is the one. Write a news story; write a poem; write an opinion piece. When she first met Mrs. Linde after not having seen her for years, Nora interrupted Mrs. Linde's story of being widowed to tell her about Torvald's promotion at the bank. He was very cocky as he was the only important person in the relationship and that he really did not care if they were together or not. Tufts purpose for arguing that Nora was seen as Narcissistic because she waited out of the life she currently was living and wanted to become her own person. This page provides opportunities for students to contribute ideas, multi-media resources, written materials, analysis of literary critiques and even announcements that will amplify our responses to class readings, literary reviews and projects. The husband's words paint an unwillingness to change what is worthy of change and a state of ignorant immaturity. It's almost as if he is saying, "hey, I am doing my part, you agreed to do your part and you haven't. He, quite honestly, needs her and is using her "responsibilities and duties as a mother" to lure her back in to his arms. He is almost warning her that if she doesn't come home, she will be worse off than if she stayed. In the following letters, Abigail writes to her husband in Philadelphia. if she was not narcissistic then she would not have needed to walk out. She is very preoccupied with her husbands success. Furthermore if such decision making power she had then whey has she ignored Dr. Ranks condition? Children don't deserve to be abandoned at all. Marcus is using his assertiveness as a way to instill shame and guilt into the heart of his estranged wife. It makes us ask the question can we truly ever achieve total freedom on this earth. He says she is stubborn, has false ambitions, and unreasonable. It seems like Tuft's refers to Nora as a narcissistic character in order explain that it was maybe partially fault of her own that the whole thing ended the way it did. % Webwife does not follow my wishes but believes herself to be entitled to act on her own, even if this is totally against my orders. And equality of both individuals coming together was something Marcus and Torvald clearly missed.Torvald makes statements such as "Are you sick?" His determination seemed to be winning success when, in 180, he died at his military headquarters, having just had Nora is simply selfish. Those can not be healthy nor accepted, for good relationship to cope, there must be a level of equality. I believe that Tufts purpose of saying that Nora is narcissistic is because at first when people read/see the play they make Nora out to be a victim but it's not until you really think it through and see all the angels that you see how selfish she really is, and not the victim people first see. g)>jZ #3WwR#9' 8_0jYBje-Gk9!Ygz/7r=..?[~J4c>^+F`J"}~V_jW_@I!? 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In the beginning he says that she is the one that has sinned but so has he, he blames himself as well but the next thing he says completely contradicts that. Although his wife may not have been able to make someone of herself because of the time period, he makes sure to impliment a feeling of guilt and despise to some extent for his wife. Both families are well off and well known. Torvald does admit his mistake and begs Nora to stay, while Marcus pretty much says, "I was partially wrong for the way I acted, but I don't really care whether to come back or not." In order to determine the difference concepts from the American Psychiatric Association was used. He's clearly very narcisstic. He was equally guilty as her because he shouldn't have pushed her away from him and she shouldnt have left her children. Instead, words that describe tone focus on how the person's disposition or mood is conveyed. After reading Tuft's article, I completely agree with Nora as a Narcissist. 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